Thanks to Cindy (MAMACIN) for collating 2012 Goadies weight loss statistics which are now posted.
Those who have been visiting this site for a while may have noticed that some of the links to threads on the GOAD board have been “broken”. Threads on the WW site are only active for some period of time after the last post to the thread (about 3 months I think) so linking to them here doesn’t work well for the long-term. We’re going to try to come up with a better way to pass on the information contained in some of the threads. Alternatively, one of the web admins may post a one-word response on the thread to keep it “alive”.
Wishing everyone a happy and a healthy 2013.
For folks joining Weight Watchers or just re-acquainting themselves we have some newbie resources that have suggestions about Weight Watchers and also the GoaD forum.
Just a note that we’re still here. Weight Watchers launched the new for 2013 program already “Weight Watchers 360″ mostly the new program is tweaks around the existing 2012 program and PointsPlus. The program adds an emphasis on “Spaces” and “Routines” to help members meet their goals.
Wishing everyone a happy holidays and if you have posts you want covered let me know.
From his WW blog (reposted with permission)
We get lots of questions about calculating or using activity points – and a lot of differing opinions. These tend to be shaped by personal experience or preference, as is my own.
Basic concept – your body burns calories for fuel, and the more you exert yourself, the more it burns. Similarly, when you consume less calories than you burn, you lose weight. So there are two possible levers to impact weight loss – intake and activity. The challenge is that there’s nutritional info for most foods, but no “activity info” for activity.
WW has some information in their articles. Go to http://tinyurl.com/IntensityOfExercise for the official WW guide to calculating activity points. My approach/observations?
- I started when WW assessed your activity level as a baseline, and you earned activity points for activity above that baseline. I still follow that approach, since it intuitively makes sense to me. If I’m more active than normal, I need more fuel.
- Some of the activity points calculated by the tracker are just wacky, so you can’t take it literally. For example, walking 18 holes of golf would earn me 18 AP. when I compare that to walking in general, it just seems high – so I only allow about 60% for that one. Essentially, you’ve got to decide what works for you, and experiment to see how it affects your progress.
- I eat my activity points. Some people don’t. Short version is that for me, it seems to offer a little more flexibility if I eat them. Yeah, I lost weight slower – but that’s okay with me; I got where I wanted.
- While activity is a lever to impact weight, I’m persuaded the bigger lever is intake. Why? I can eat five points of food in less than a minute, but it takes an hour of walking to burn it off. Essentially, it’s too easy to out-eat your activity.
- Activity points drop for a given level of activity as your weight drops. Make sure you’re recalibrating what you allow for activity as you lose weight.
- If your weight loss stalls and you eat your AP, how you calculate them might be one of the first places to look for the problem. Historically, people overestimate activity earned and underestimate calories consumed.
- Activity is more about fitness than food. (Took me a while to get there.) I’d suggest you don’t start counting the three minute walk to the train, the fourteen stairs into the office, the time spent walking around the grocery store – you get the picture. If you’re looking around for little tiny pieces of activity points to pick up, you may be thinking about this all wrong.
So don’t fear activity points – but use them with some caution and some common sense. Don’t be greedy about accumulating and using them.
One person’s opinion . . . . .
A thread by Free.Bee highlighted remarks on the earnings call about planned 2013 program changes.
Quoting a bit, there is a suggestion that this will be more than the 2012 changes but less than the full switch from Points-to-PointsPlus that we saw in late 2010:
“It is definitely more significant than the change that we put in this year, which I would say was a pretty modest level of innovation.
So, I think it’s what we would typically… If I had to ballpark it, I would say it’s what I would categorize as what we’ve historically called a major innovation. So, let me kind of provide a little bit of color around my definitions. I think of innovations in three buckets. One is platform change. The next level down is major innovation, and the next level down below that is what I would call minor innovation.
I would call PointsPlus 2012 a minor innovation. I would call PointsPlus itself a platform change, platform changes typically being every 10 years. Major innovations for us have typically been every two to three years. Momentum was a major innovation. There were a number of others like it. I would put this current rate in that category. At least that’s the expectation we have for it as we’re thinking about our marketing and PR plans as we go into January. ”
You can read the full transcript on Seekingalpha.com.
A thread about a Cracked.com OpEd of sorts discouraging weight loss gathered some steam.
My editorial: I continue to believe that most weight loss fails not because we are destined to get fat again or because the metabolism of formerly fat people is slower, but because people return to old patterns/habits and overeat. Our obesogenic food environment in the US does not help, but the main thing that happens is people go back to over consuming calories.
“Weight of the Nation” is available for free streaming on HBO’s website. It’s a 4 hour documentary on the toll of obesity in America.
Newbieposter synthesized a long thread on GoaD about etiquette on his blog here. These are copied here as good suggestions.
- DON’T USE ALL CAPS – it’s considered shouting.
- Don’t “hijack” threads. If you want to take a thread in a different direction, start a new one. Learn the acronyms and more about GOAD at http://goadies.org/faq/acronyms/
- Use a clear thread name, because some read each thread but others only skim for topics that interest them.
- Punctuation and paragraph breaks make reading posts easier. The Faulkner-ish stream of consciousness style of posting is tough to follow.
- Please don’t post and disappear – that’s a “drive-by”. If you are looking for advice, some feedback to the people who offer it up is nice.
- Read a lot to learn the ropes – “lurking”, in other words. Get a feel for the tone of the board before jumping in.
- Read a few days’ worth of posts to see if whatever basic question you are about to ask has recently been answered.
- Even a KITA or a “tell it like it is” can be couched in words that will encourage.
- This is a two-dimensional media. Irony, sarcasm and humor don’t translate well. Consider using emoticons, even if you don’t like them.
- Don’t interpret tone or intent where there may not be any.
- Do your homework – Check the basic WW materials for info before posting a question.
- Respect each others opinions, even if we don’t agree with them. Type a message as if your were speaking to that person’s face. It is often easy to forget there is a real person behind each of these messages.
- Have an idea of who you are, and how you want to be known before you post. You *are* what you post.
- Think twice; post once. (The “carpenter’s rule” for Message Boards.)
- Don’t assume everyone’s first language is English or that they have the same educational background as you.
- Don’t mock someone just to get a laugh.
- Accept that if someone posts incorrect scientific/biological info on GoaD, it will be corrected. Better to have your ego a little bruised but have accurate info.
- Opinions aren’t facts. Keep that distinction clear in your posts, and as you read others’ comments.
- Don’t be afraid to post just because you disagree with someone’s opinion.